Saviors of Saviors of Earth

Earthlings, Chiaroscuros and Sfumatos, United to Save the Saviors

I'm posting this here so that people can respond without worrying about censorship. Pies, take it away...

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I guess BSB never looked at...... erm skipped over the evidence of Brads past ventures then.

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First of all he generalizes us INSANELY "they all say that we all worship brad and that they all need to save us from ourselves" that kinda thing shows he knows NOTHING of whats going on here or what our beliefs are. I dont think anyone here has ever doubted the fact that there are an increasing number of people on the site who are on to Brads bullshit or who dont necessarily follow or believe him, that never stopped him banning comments and manipulating everything to make him look good though. Though lately I think most of us have pretty much accepted that Brad has revealed his true self and has put SOE behind him to pursue lucrative moneymaking careers followed by homelessness, not a lot of talk lately about being worried about people following Brad cause honestly...who would at this point..cept for hobo fetishists

And what the fuck does he mean "not practicising what you preach" what the hell do you think we preach here? do you think that the idea of SOE that you adopt of "lets accept all and not judge anything except we are exempt and can call people assholes and wrong because we are more highly evolved" automatically has to apply as this sites mission statement because thats the only way it would make sense you saying this site is " not practicing what they preach"

Anyway BSB if your still here making stupid generalizations like that isn't gonna help anybody if you wanna have a serious discussion and not just try to diss this site and look cool. I remember when you used your former administrator powers to delete an entire discussion i had on there complete with many well thought out responses to me because you claimed loudly in chat room "WHO THINKS I SHOULD DELETE THIS DISCUSSION CAUSE THIS GUY TELLS BRADS WIFE TO STOP BEING LAZY AND GET A JOB, OH TOO LATE I DELETED IN ANYWAY HAHA LOVE AND LIGHT" when I didnt even say anything close to that. Methinks what I have learned from that and all this is that you need to take more time with things before you make up some make believe bs for you to spout out to make yourself feel better, bullshitbuddha

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BSB is obliviously blind to the fact that brad johnson is a lowlife opportunist who's only intrested in making a buck.

the question you should be asking your self BSB is why is brad aimlessly wondering the streets of his "unnatural" city instead of already ascending to the next 5th D, since you know all the evil and darkness is gone what is here to do for an unlimited being such as brad johnson? stay limited? that doesn't make any sense.

UNLESS... brad johnson is bullshiting you all with his personal truth and knows that ascension is a lie and that once you die that's the end of your existence, so he decided to take the opportunity to earn some extra bucks because he's a human being just like the rest of us and monthly wellfare checks from the government wasnt enough for him.

if you take ANYTHING he says seriously then you are either really stupid or just gullible. pity.

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being that only reasonable conclusions are based on facts, and seeing as though many many many ppl agree with the conclusion that brad johnson is a lowlife, as evidenced by documented facts found throughout this website... we can consider it a consolidated fact that brad johnson is a lowlife charleton.

Steve said:
being oblivious to facts and being oblivious to conclusions are two different things. Being a "lowlife opportunist", while I agree with it, is a judgement based conclusion, not a fact.

Jesus Cries said:
BSB is obliviously blind to the fact that brad johnson is a lowlife opportunist who's only intrested in making a buck.

the question you should be asking your self BSB is why is brad aimlessly wondering the streets of his "unnatural" city instead of already ascending to the next 5th D, since you know all the evil and darkness is gone what is here to do for an unlimited being such as brad johnson? stay limited? that doesn't make any sense.

UNLESS... brad johnson is bullshiting you all with his personal truth and knows that ascension is a lie and that once you die that's the end of your existence, so he decided to take the opportunity to earn some extra bucks because he's a human being just like the rest of us and monthly wellfare checks from the government wasnt enough for him.

if you take ANYTHING he says seriously then you are either really stupid or just gullible. pity.

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I think BSB is really just trying to draw bridges between this community and SOE. Whether we accept his reaching out is entirely up to us as individuals. I personally have had no bad experiences with him and consider that if anything he has managed with his post over there to convey our message to the broader audience of SOE in ways that we could not have accomplished because of our standing with those people.

Angrily declaring Brad a charlatan and a liar is something that I find quite perplexing. Holding such a hard grudge towards the guy is giving him way too much credit. Anyone who thinks that he's going to make a dime with EOS is completely delusional and in the off-chance that someone would pay him for this garbage, well I would say "A fool and his money are soon parted". Brad isn't the first nor will be the last to declare himself a powerful wizard IRL that can heal through the internet. And as we're discussing this, he certainly isn't the most "dangerous".

The best way to discredit him and his shenanigans (ya that's right shenanigans) is to laugh and focus any frustrations in a creative way. Using humor and irony like iDom does in his designs completely dismantles what Brad is doing and the best part is it leaves you laughing. I still piss myself every time I listen to video of Brad "connecting" via modem to the aliens. Look at Stephen Colbert and what he's managed to accomplish: probably the most incisive critique of right-wing ideology out there using comedy. So in my view if you're angry then you got trolled and the other guy wins, and he has gained the right to stand atop his garbage ugly website, surrounded by his league of uneducated charlatan powerful wizards IRL and declare "lolumad".

Jesus Cries said:
being that only reasonable conclusions are based on facts, and seeing as though many many many ppl agree with the conclusion that brad johnson is a lowlife, as evidenced by documented facts found throughout this website... we can consider it a consolidated fact that brad johnson is a lowlife charleton.
Steve said:
being oblivious to facts and being oblivious to conclusions are two different things. Being a "lowlife opportunist", while I agree with it, is a judgement based conclusion, not a fact.

Jesus Cries said:
BSB is obliviously blind to the fact that brad johnson is a lowlife opportunist who's only intrested in making a buck.

the question you should be asking your self BSB is why is brad aimlessly wondering the streets of his "unnatural" city instead of already ascending to the next 5th D, since you know all the evil and darkness is gone what is here to do for an unlimited being such as brad johnson? stay limited? that doesn't make any sense.
UNLESS... brad johnson is bullshiting you all with his personal truth and knows that ascension is a lie and that once you die that's the end of your existence, so he decided to take the opportunity to earn some extra bucks because he's a human being just like the rest of us and monthly wellfare checks from the government wasnt enough for him.
if you take ANYTHING he says seriously then you are either really stupid or just gullible. pity.

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I do appreciate BSB taking the time to look around and even post a comment on one of the videos here. I will say, though, that I hope BSB posts this himself (which I asked him to do in a comment on his comment page). That would be a true demonstration of drawing bridges, and I still hope he takes the opportunity.

Next, I want to speak on behalf of those who get angry. (Probably because I am one of them.) Many cannot help but feel and respond in anger when they see someone preying on the weak and vulnerable. Yeah, I understand there are more dangerous liars and more dangerous charlatans out there. We just happened upon this one due to his viral-marketing his 1014 blogspot.

I do appreciate the humor and parody on this site. It brings me to tears. A sad but hilarious post about Brad and Kerry stirred Brad to threaten lawsuit, which both showed everyone his true nature (one to cry "cease-and-desist" anytime he sees something he objects to) and to move his devout followers to claim the lawsuit threat was our "karma"... a dualistic concept claimed by a community who is anti-duality. A funny chat bot on our own chat server, I suspect, stirred him to create an anti-spybot rule, further evidencing his increasing paranoia. (Not an emotion to be experienced by a higher being, in my opinion.)

But I would say that the "anger" has been just as effective. As an example, the number of times Pies has been banned from SOE for confrontational behavior pokes holes in the "cult of unconditional love." Clinton's attack on Jesus Cries (all captured in screenshots) shows he's no all-being like he claims.

Antagonism (in the "opposing principles" sense of the word) takes many forms. Everyone has their method, and I'm glad for every response on here, from the angry to the silly. I appreciate everyone's way. :)

TheTabarnac said:
I think BSB is really just trying to draw bridges between this community and SOE. Whether we accept his reaching out is entirely up to us as individuals. I personally have had no bad experiences with him and consider that if anything he has managed with his post over there to convey our message to the broader audience of SOE in ways that we could not have accomplished because of our standing with those people.

Angrily declaring Brad a charlatan and a liar is something that I find quite perplexing. Holding such a hard grudge towards the guy is giving him way too much credit. Anyone who thinks that he's going to make a dime with EOS is completely delusional and in the off-chance that someone would pay him for this garbage, well I would say "A fool and his money are soon parted". Brad isn't the first nor will be the last to declare himself a powerful wizard IRL that can heal through the internet. And as we're discussing this, he certainly isn't the most "dangerous".

The best way to discredit him and his shenanigans (ya that's right shenanigans) is to laugh and focus any frustrations in a creative way. Using humor and irony like iDom does in his designs completely dismantles what Brad is doing and the best part is it leaves you laughing. I still piss myself every time I listen to video of Brad "connecting" via modem to the aliens. Look at Stephen Colbert and what he's managed to accomplish: probably the most incisive critique of right-wing ideology out there using comedy. So in my view if you're angry then you got trolled and the other guy wins, and he has gained the right to stand atop his garbage ugly website, surrounded by his league of uneducated charlatan powerful wizards IRL and declare "lolumad".

Jesus Cries said:
being that only reasonable conclusions are based on facts, and seeing as though many many many ppl agree with the conclusion that brad johnson is a lowlife, as evidenced by documented facts found throughout this website... we can consider it a consolidated fact that brad johnson is a lowlife charleton.
Steve said:
being oblivious to facts and being oblivious to conclusions are two different things. Being a "lowlife opportunist", while I agree with it, is a judgement based conclusion, not a fact.

Jesus Cries said:
BSB is obliviously blind to the fact that brad johnson is a lowlife opportunist who's only intrested in making a buck.

the question you should be asking your self BSB is why is brad aimlessly wondering the streets of his "unnatural" city instead of already ascending to the next 5th D, since you know all the evil and darkness is gone what is here to do for an unlimited being such as brad johnson? stay limited? that doesn't make any sense.
UNLESS... brad johnson is bullshiting you all with his personal truth and knows that ascension is a lie and that once you die that's the end of your existence, so he decided to take the opportunity to earn some extra bucks because he's a human being just like the rest of us and monthly wellfare checks from the government wasnt enough for him.
if you take ANYTHING he says seriously then you are either really stupid or just gullible. pity.

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I always thought of Brad more as a "deserves to be mocked for the entertainment of all" sort of like paris hilton. Though I admit there are times I have been close to what can be called anger, those were mostly times when I had been blocked by Brad on chat while he channels how bad I am or other times when Brad would reply to some comment I made on his blog than instantly delete any replies so he would have the final word. Perhaps during times like those I approached a certain kind of anger..the rest of the time I dont know...

There were many points dealing with this whole thing starting with just posts on Brads oct 14th blog where I tried my best to be kind and friendly only to feel the most vehement negative kind of energies thrown on me directly from this Brad dude. If at any point I felt anything but the slimy often passive aggressive selfish mean spirited egomaniacal bullshit from Brad at any point I would have been willing to try and come to a peace, but he never budged, he never really woke up, he just kept on making up new awakenings and new powers and typing out new bullshit polished statements about how he was humble and godlike and accepted all truths when he never did and never has.

I prefer honesty and openess rather than this passive agressive bullshit where your hiding behind something in order to be a douche to the world. I respond to that not by trying to act like I'm better, like I am above it and I am more mature and enlightened. I just say what I think, I call a douche a douche, Perhaps I'd like it more if I could debunk and fuck with more popular or influential or dangerous asshole psychic channeler fakers but the truth is its not as easy as it is with Brad. Maybe i'm not doing everything perfectly and righteously and in the exact way that it should be done. i'm not perfect, I have an ego, it feels good to be right and throw it in the faces of those who are wrong, it feels good to feel smarter and better than everyone else its the same for everybody and the worst most doucheiest thing you can do to feed that ego is to act like you don't have one.

In short, Brad was a raging asshole throughout all of this in my eyes and I think I had every right to call him on that, I stand by everything I said about him, because he proved it all right and personally I think its a given that the whole Brad thing looks to be dying down, there's not much need to debunk him or go after his credibility anymore, sort of weird that now all of a sudden all this talk about "lets not be mean to brad" is coming up, but I guess hobos are more endearing or something.


Steve said:
I agree. BSB is cool in my book, he always seemed like a level headed guy. I also agree that some of us are pretty vehement in how we go after brad, and I think at this point we could probably calm down a bit. We all know what there is to know so there's no need to get so vitriolic every time it gets discussed.

TheTabarnac said:
I think BSB is really just trying to draw bridges between this community and SOE. Whether we accept his reaching out is entirely up to us as individuals. I personally have had no bad experiences with him and consider that if anything he has managed with his post over there to convey our message to the broader audience of SOE in ways that we could not have accomplished because of our standing with those people.


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Fair enough Pies.

A douche is a douche.

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eh.... humourous mannerisms and awesome sarcasms are some way to discredit a charleton. But there are of course other ways to do so. More serious and straightforward ways, which one is a better way? who knows at this point, but to find honesty and straightforwardness perplexing in this sort of a situation doesn't make much sense.

As much as there needs to be humor and mockery of this charleton there also needs to be outspoken righteous seriousness to add balance to our argument.

TheTabarnac said:
I think BSB is really just trying to draw bridges between this community and SOE. Whether we accept his reaching out is entirely up to us as individuals. I personally have had no bad experiences with him and consider that if anything he has managed with his post over there to convey our message to the broader audience of SOE in ways that we could not have accomplished because of our standing with those people.

Angrily declaring Brad a charlatan and a liar is something that I find quite perplexing. Holding such a hard grudge towards the guy is giving him way too much credit. Anyone who thinks that he's going to make a dime with EOS is completely delusional and in the off-chance that someone would pay him for this garbage, well I would say "A fool and his money are soon parted". Brad isn't the first nor will be the last to declare himself a powerful wizard IRL that can heal through the internet. And as we're discussing this, he certainly isn't the most "dangerous".

The best way to discredit him and his shenanigans (ya that's right shenanigans) is to laugh and focus any frustrations in a creative way. Using humor and irony like iDom does in his designs completely dismantles what Brad is doing and the best part is it leaves you laughing. I still piss myself every time I listen to video of Brad "connecting" via modem to the aliens. Look at Stephen Colbert and what he's managed to accomplish: probably the most incisive critique of right-wing ideology out there using comedy. So in my view if you're angry then you got trolled and the other guy wins, and he has gained the right to stand atop his garbage ugly website, surrounded by his league of uneducated charlatan powerful wizards IRL and declare "lolumad".

Jesus Cries said:
being that only reasonable conclusions are based on facts, and seeing as though many many many ppl agree with the conclusion that brad johnson is a lowlife, as evidenced by documented facts found throughout this website... we can consider it a consolidated fact that brad johnson is a lowlife charleton.
Steve said:
being oblivious to facts and being oblivious to conclusions are two different things. Being a "lowlife opportunist", while I agree with it, is a judgement based conclusion, not a fact.

Jesus Cries said:
BSB is obliviously blind to the fact that brad johnson is a lowlife opportunist who's only intrested in making a buck.

the question you should be asking your self BSB is why is brad aimlessly wondering the streets of his "unnatural" city instead of already ascending to the next 5th D, since you know all the evil and darkness is gone what is here to do for an unlimited being such as brad johnson? stay limited? that doesn't make any sense.
UNLESS... brad johnson is bullshiting you all with his personal truth and knows that ascension is a lie and that once you die that's the end of your existence, so he decided to take the opportunity to earn some extra bucks because he's a human being just like the rest of us and monthly wellfare checks from the government wasnt enough for him.
if you take ANYTHING he says seriously then you are either really stupid or just gullible. pity.

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ROFL. I suggest something a bit less indulgent. Maybe

PeopleWhoWantToSaveTheEarthByBeingOnlineAllDayAndOnlyCaringAboutThemselves.ning.com

or we can keep it short

emos.ning.com

Steve said:
Interesting new discussion from BSB:

http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/am-i-the-only-one-who-n...

At least one person is suggesting SOE change its name.

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Space emos from planet Z

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I would go with "people who think they can save the world".

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