Welcome to Saviorsofsaviorsofearth (SoSoe) - Saviors of Saviors of Earth 2009-08-09T04:10:33Z http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/welcome-to?commentId=2827019%3AComment%3A23349&x=1%232827019Comment23349&feed=yes&xn_auth=no aaaaaaaaah Ben oh Ben... so... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23349 2009-08-07T14:02:20.909Z Linda aaaaaaaaah Ben oh Ben... sometimes I wish you where not gay LMAO ;-)<br /> <br /> You just made my day... again LOL<br /> <br /> OK, I'm of to a BBQ! ... see you guys later! aaaaaaaaah Ben oh Ben... sometimes I wish you where not gay LMAO ;-)<br /> <br /> You just made my day... again LOL<br /> <br /> OK, I'm of to a BBQ! ... see you guys later! Et voila, there is the Tony... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23346 2009-08-07T13:34:46.352Z Ben Et voila, there is the Tony I mentioned in the article, dropping by again to give his opinion and thereby confirming what I wrote about the freedom of speech offered by SoSoe.<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Tony’s comment focuses on only one sentence and still fails to clarify things *sigh*. Nobody denies that some people are indeed members of both SOE and SoSoe; what is unclear is why some of them got and get banned from SOE. “Duality”, foul language, and insults are given as reasons, but when people haven’t&hellip; Et voila, there is the Tony I mentioned in the article, dropping by again to give his opinion and thereby confirming what I wrote about the freedom of speech offered by SoSoe.<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Tony’s comment focuses on only one sentence and still fails to clarify things *sigh*. Nobody denies that some people are indeed members of both SOE and SoSoe; what is unclear is why some of them got and get banned from SOE. “Duality”, foul language, and insults are given as reasons, but when people haven’t done anything to warrant a ban, they’re shipped off with, I paraphrase, “one cannot be a member of both sites because that would like a vegetarian joining a site that promotes the consumption of meat”. So again (and again and again): no one denies that some people are members of both sites; what’s still unclear after all that time is why some people got banned for no reason and, upon confrontation, given a weak, deceitful excuse.<br /> <br /> Yes, Brad has been told to die and go to hell and whatnot. Nobody denies that either. We all know that some people, including me, tend to use strong language when angry. (Tony himself also uses colorful phrases in the heat of the moment: <a href="http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/video/brad-does-his-shamwow?page=1#comment-2827019_Comment_21370">http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/video/brad-does-his-shamwow...</a>). I don’t endorse it, but these things happen sometimes, not just on the internet, but also at work, during a rowdy night on the town, and God knows adolescent sibling rivalry wouldn’t be the same without harsh words of that magnitude. We also know it’s not quite the same as really wishing or hoping that harm will come to the person we’re angry with. What <i>does</i> make a difference is context. Some SoSoe-members are mad as hell at Brad because of his schemes, lies, and his attempts to manipulate the gullible, the weak, and everything that wears a skirt. SOE-members, however, as we can see in the article’s link to “messages from SOE-ers to Pufnstuf”, also lash out at people, nay, <i>friends</i> who express genuine concern about the wellbeing of others. And how can we ever forget Druanna’s terms of endearment in her infamous youtube video?<br /> <br /> Usually, when the going gets tough, Tony prefers to walk away from the thread and start commenting on another one, but maybe he’ll post another response here, just to prove me wrong. In any case, Tony is, as always, more than welcome to <s>cyberstalk</s> <s>hit and run</s> give his two cents because this site firmly believes in freedom of speech and is against any form of fascism.<br /> <br /> <cite>Tony said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/welcome-to?x=1&amp;id=2827019%3ATopic%3A23255&amp;page=1#2827019Comment23315"><div>*sigh* the usual half truths and bullshit to fit the sosoe agenda.<br/> .....and then lies on SOE, saying “as of yet we have no problems with people being a member of both sites”, we come forward with the information of his hypocrisy......<br/> <br/> Bloodshotbuddah, Mystical enigma, indigo bliss... and the list goes on. All members here and at soe. The sosoe members who have been banned have either wished members of soe dead (search on die, dead, kill) or insulted them, as their posts clearly show.<br/> <br/> Here just one to wet the taste buds to let new members see the hate posted here:<br/> Quote:Go to hell and die brad, die slowly and horribly, you are one of the most deplorable beings on the planet, congratulations. <a href="http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/go-to-hell-brad-seriously?page=3&amp;commentId=2827019%3AComment%3A20476&amp;x=1#2827019Comment20476">http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/go-to-hell-bra...</a></div> </blockquote> Someone send this to Ning -... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23342 2009-08-07T11:34:27.075Z Aveohst Someone send this to Ning - RE:Shutting down SOSOE - this says it all. Someone send this to Ning - RE:Shutting down SOSOE - this says it all. *APPLAUSE* BEN! 5 stars ☺ S... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23339 2009-08-07T10:56:26.421Z Twilight_Child *APPLAUSE* BEN! 5 stars ☺ Splendid writing... *APPLAUSE* BEN! 5 stars ☺ Splendid writing... Ben, you are SO becomming m... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23335 2009-08-07T08:19:08.190Z Linda Ben, you are SO becomming my favorite writer :-D ... actually, you already are LOL... its all put together so well... my hat's of for you, my friend... YES, I can, cuz I've got 1 :-P<br /> <br /> Hun, I had a great pic from Photobucket ready to place, but I cant get it to show up here :-S ... I'm sorry!!<br /> <br /> Thanks a bunch for placing this discussion... its loud and clear<br /> <br /> Hugs Ben, you are SO becomming my favorite writer :-D ... actually, you already are LOL... its all put together so well... my hat's of for you, my friend... YES, I can, cuz I've got 1 :-P<br /> <br /> Hun, I had a great pic from Photobucket ready to place, but I cant get it to show up here :-S ... I'm sorry!!<br /> <br /> Thanks a bunch for placing this discussion... its loud and clear<br /> <br /> Hugs Really awesome recap Ben, s... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23332 2009-08-07T06:59:26.477Z PrincessHeart Really awesome recap Ben, summarises the site and the story so far well.<br /> <br /> Tony is still talking shit btw, since I and everyone here got banned around March/April (?) and then had our accounts reactivated when Brad became awakened and enlightened again, shedding the ego and all grudges, etc etc, around Apr/May.<br /> I remember because I was inactive there for about 3 months, tried to follow someone's link from here, and found I was banned. After never threatening people or breaking a rule.<br /> <br /> I have nev&hellip; Really awesome recap Ben, summarises the site and the story so far well.<br /> <br /> Tony is still talking shit btw, since I and everyone here got banned around March/April (?) and then had our accounts reactivated when Brad became awakened and enlightened again, shedding the ego and all grudges, etc etc, around Apr/May.<br /> I remember because I was inactive there for about 3 months, tried to follow someone's link from here, and found I was banned. After never threatening people or breaking a rule.<br /> <br /> I have never focused on insulting or flaming any person for any reason besides <b>specific subject matter</b> presented by them in the context of the spiritual community, or SOE/SoSOE. And I did this within the rules, as skeptcism was stated ALLOWED at SOE.<br /> Just the usual half truths and bullshit to fit the Tony Agenda. Oh where are my manners: we... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23331 2009-08-07T06:46:48.327Z ParadigmShift Oh where are my manners: welcome to any new SOSOE members, and sorry for the derail.<br /> I guess sometimes it can't be helped around here. Oh where are my manners: welcome to any new SOSOE members, and sorry for the derail.<br /> I guess sometimes it can't be helped around here. Tony...if you went any lowe... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23329 2009-08-07T06:19:01.299Z ParadigmShift Tony...if you went any lower I'd have to scrape your ass off the floor with a spatula.<br /> <br /> What do you see in common between these SOE users: Kerry, Clinton, Antonella, Twilight Child, Indigo Bliss, and You? For one, as a group you guys were a big part of Brad's "inner circle" so to speak. You all got to know Brad intimately and see him for who he REALLY was. Kerry found out the hard way, by being suckered into a romantic relationship with him. I can only imagine how "romantic" it was when Brad pro&hellip; Tony...if you went any lower I'd have to scrape your ass off the floor with a spatula.<br /> <br /> What do you see in common between these SOE users: Kerry, Clinton, Antonella, Twilight Child, Indigo Bliss, and You? For one, as a group you guys were a big part of Brad's "inner circle" so to speak. You all got to know Brad intimately and see him for who he REALLY was. Kerry found out the hard way, by being suckered into a romantic relationship with him. I can only imagine how "romantic" it was when Brad proved to be a deadbeat slob who deleted emails from her concerned family and when she was begging to return to UK. Clinton and Antonella came out as concerned friends and business partners to warn him of the ethical and personal implications of what he was doing. Twilight Child had every right to lash out after Brad was unbelievably creepy and tried to manipulate her. At the very least, even IB has stated that he wants to "remain neutral" in all of this after he found out (on this site, by the way) about the expressionofsoul.com website Brad was trying to start up offering non-refundable "cures" to cancer and autism (amongst other retarded shams). That leaves YOU, the one who thinks that all of this is just dandy. Go ahead and try to call things "half lies" and bullshit in the name of serving an agenda, but these are things you can't deny without someone being able to link to proof before you even get a chance to fully insert your foot in your mouth.<br /> <br /> At one point you guys (Clint, Ant, TC, IB, you and a few others) were the backbone of SOE but Brad crushed that backbone one member at a time. You should know better by now than to remain the faithful little coccyx buried smugly in his ass, ready for punishment when he fucks up. There is NO excuse for it. You know what kind of person he is, you've witnessed, in addition to the aforementioned people, his sister and best friend reluctantly join this site out of concern for his well-being, yet you remained conveniently silent. You know just as well as we do just who Brad is, what he's done and what he continues to do, yet you seem to take pride in keeping new members in the dark while you revel in their admiration -- admiration that they'd probably be ashamed to admit if they came to learn the truth about you.<br /> <br /> PS: I hope you guys don't mind, I'm gonna start recycling my posts on Tony. I don't find him worth the time to write out a new response just to have him run away with his hands clamped to his ears. Reading this reply again yo... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23324 2009-08-07T03:12:53.254Z ilikepies Reading this reply again you can't help get an image of Tony as that kind of douche who waits until someone is being held back before he lets go with a punch. He comes here to piss all over a thread started as a way to give new people our take on what this site is all about, specifically those who have already been exposed to the version of us as evil hate filled cyberstalkers. So of course Tony couldn't help but come here and jump at the chance to put one quote of mine (admittedly i'd probably&hellip; Reading this reply again you can't help get an image of Tony as that kind of douche who waits until someone is being held back before he lets go with a punch. He comes here to piss all over a thread started as a way to give new people our take on what this site is all about, specifically those who have already been exposed to the version of us as evil hate filled cyberstalkers. So of course Tony couldn't help but come here and jump at the chance to put one quote of mine (admittedly i'd probably prefer myself not to dabble in talk of people dying even though i never make a direct threat but I still stand by it as a comment made in a very angry mood after witnessing the travesty that was "adronis on mike jackson") and deem it as an example of what this site has to offer. And Yah he can do that, he can do that because we let anyone say what they want on this site, any attempt of ours to go onto some thread made on SOE with their version of "welcome to soe this is what we're all about" and spam it filled with chat transcripts of brad calling himself a celebrity new age sex god would be promptly removed. Yet because we are burdened with this "allow all opinions to be expressed" position which you people only CLAIM to hold you can come here and piss all over a thread like this then run back to your site where we're not allowed to post anything.<br /> <br /> You call yourself a man Tony? Excuse me??? OOOOOH your SO... tag:saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com,2009-08-07:2827019:Comment:23322 2009-08-07T01:12:39.725Z Linda Excuse me??? OOOOOH your SO full of it... I did not do anything b4 getting banned by YOU, yes it was YOU... I'm sure of it!!... all I did was state here that I was willing to post a thread on SOE, put together by members from SOSOE... I was willing to do that BECAUSE THEY WHERE SILENCED by YOU and your buddy... the people here did not put together such a post and so nothing was posted by me, but YOU banned me anyway... just in case!!... over nothing...<br /> <br /> But you know what, Tony... there are WAY b&hellip; Excuse me??? OOOOOH your SO full of it... I did not do anything b4 getting banned by YOU, yes it was YOU... I'm sure of it!!... all I did was state here that I was willing to post a thread on SOE, put together by members from SOSOE... I was willing to do that BECAUSE THEY WHERE SILENCED by YOU and your buddy... the people here did not put together such a post and so nothing was posted by me, but YOU banned me anyway... just in case!!... over nothing...<br /> <br /> But you know what, Tony... there are WAY better sites out there than Mister SuperEvolvedFakeChanneler's little ning... sites where people dont get silenced for having another point of vieuw or opinion... and I have found them :-)<br /> <br /> <cite>Tony said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/welcome-to#2827019Comment23315"><div>*sigh* the usual half truths and bullshit to fit the sosoe agenda.<br/> .....and then lies on SOE, saying “as of yet we have no problems with people being a member of both sites”, we come forward with the information of his hypocrisy......<br/> <br/> Bloodshotbuddah, Mystical enigma, indigo bliss... and the list goes on. All members here and at soe. The sosoe members who have been banned have either wished members of soe dead (search on die, dead, kill) or insulted them, as their posts clearly show.<br/> <br/> Here just one to wet the taste buds to let new members see the hate posted here:<br/> Quote:Go to hell and die brad, die slowly and horribly, you are one of the most deplorable beings on the planet, congratulations. <a href="http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/go-to-hell-brad-seriously?page=3&amp;commentId=2827019%3AComment%3A20476&amp;x=1#2827019Comment20476">http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/go-to-hell-bra...</a></div> </blockquote>