Earthlings, Chiaroscuros and Sfumatos, United to Save the Saviors
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For future reference i would like to point out the "block messages" option available to any ning user in their mail box and the ning procedure for lodging complaints which would then be investigated depending on the severity.
Not knowing the "ins-and-outs" and each and every action-reaction makes it impossible to objectively justify or condem such interaction, such action which occurs daily in real life as it does on internet on millions of occasions between conculting adults. It does however take two to tango, if one member on ning feels unjustly approached/treated they have several options (mentioned above) on how to proceed.
For future reference i would like to point out the "block messages" option available to any ning user in their mail box and the ning procedure for lodging complaints which would then be investigated depending on the severity.
Not knowing the "ins-and-outs" and each and every action-reaction makes it impossible to objectively justify or condem such interaction, such action which occurs daily in real life as it does on internet on millions of occasions between conculting adults. It does however take two to tango, if one member on ning feels unjustly approached/treated they have several options (mentioned above) on how to proceed.
just a realist, millions commit misadventures on a daily basis. I just don't have the fixation or inclination to focus on one in a million. SOE has long overtaken Brad and any individual member, transfer creator to mickey mouse and the community will continue to grow, the majority of reasons for joining are stated as "i was drawn here, directed here" and such.
Of the current 1249 members i know only a handful who treat brads posts any different from any other post made there. It's a community of diversity mirroring daily life. Anyone is free to set up an event on channeling and channel any entity they believe they are channeling. I for one believing i have no "abilities" am more reserved and call it perceived channeling http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/group/container
there are 93 groups with diverse beliefs and probably 3 or 4 members who actively set up events on channeling/soulmate readings/healing sessions all these "misadventures" as you call them are subject to members own interpretation. Brad is just one of them, anyone is free to set up a group or hold an event and its up to members if they find the content of groups or channeling BS or not. A quick count shows 2401members involved in "misadventures" over the diverse groups which means on average each member is a member of two groups.
So how many members actively follow brads posts/channelings compared to other posts/channelings? he is just one of many putting content up which is deemned BS or not as are all posts.
DeusEx said:Tony, you must love deploying the smokescreen for Brad's misadventures.
No, i am stating thats its impossible to make judgement (let alone if so inclined) on one half of the mails. Also that anyone has the choice of clicking on "block messages" or telling someone to FO.
I do not take SS of conversations thinking that one day i may need to repost it as proof. I know what i have seen/read.
hmmm i just tried to find one example of why conversations/interactions have various sides to them but alas clinton has deleted his account. In his final post i am sure you have read that he stated that he never saw any energy surrounding brad, only brads energy. Yet only last week he replied to one of the channelings (regardless if it was brad or an energy) stating that he loved the channeling and could feel the energy of adronis. But once again who is interested? members dicern for themselves what is truth/bs. Who am i to judge it for others, they can draw their own conclusions.
The mere statement "your boy Brad" and reference to a link indicates fixation. I have nothing with Brad other than i am a member of a community he initiated and which has long outgrown him or any other member. As stated somewhere else Brad, me or any member is not important, we don't matter. We wont be causing galaxys to explode or anything. So yes hunting down links, posts, sites etc etc is a fixation. People either do or do not listen to brad, there is plenty of content to chose from at soe. People not interested in what he has to say or posts won't be following up links relating to him Only those fixated with him will. Not a quality expressed by any soe member that i know of?
DeusEx said:You are keen to ask the women that have come out against Brad to provide more evidence in hopes that you can vilify them. Maybe you'll actually take the time to read my link before you come back with the witty remarks about us being fixated on your boy, Brad.
P.S. - You have seen Brad perform such readings for males and use such wording? Please go ahead and provide the screenshots for a few of them.
Tony said:I have seen brad give similar readings to males where he speaks of them being full of love, beautiful, angelic and such.
As for being a sex offender i believe that thought is brought on by your fixation on the person.
here some statistics on infidelity/adultry: http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/infidelitystats.html
DeusEx said:Tony, have a look at: Common Characteristics of Sex Offenders
I hope you are not implying that Twilight Child led Brad on or deserved the nasty type of attention he gave her.
the wife is screaming we go shopping, so one last response for now. More later.
- 1) The dynamics of an individual and the community they wish to remain part of. on its own merrit the above can also include the option of leaving such a community
2) The relationship between those in positions of power and the individuals they pursue.
- anyone who feels pursued can click on "block messages" forcing the pursuer to post in public.
Brad is the creator of the site and continuously puts himself to the forefront of SOE.
- any member is free to do so, alas only 3 or 4 feel they can or are inclined to do so. Many chose to operate on a one-to-one basis. Three friends have been helped behind the scenes with cancer by some of the healers and have partially posted so but mainly inform me via mail that they have been greatly helped.
Multiple female members have come forth stating that Brad approached them in ways not becoming of his supposed role in SOE.
- I have honestly only seen that here, the post in the first link directs me to a member called "thetruthisoutthere" i have no idea who that is. My advice there is given in point 2 above. NING i am sure would also act if they received a complaint warrant action.
- Keep in mind he was still married at the time. Understand that the average member has joined SOE to feel a part of something bigger, a community. If they are approached by someone in a position of authority and told things such as Brad has been recorded to, then clearly it could be seen how this presents a dilemma to the individual if they do not wish such advances to be made.
--- i don't see the dilemma, although i am no female i am sure i would immediately click on block messages or speak out that i am not amused by such advances. The blocking of messages forces it into the open where all can see, any objection to such advances made in public if persisted in would warrant and intitiate intervention from other members. There again the persons in question along with a few other members frequently ALL participated in what could be classed as adult converstaion causing some to leave chat or avoid chat.
- Do they dare risk being banned from the community they wish so much to be a part of?
--- blocking messages is not a banning offense, see above for what i believe would happen.
- Now consider how many cult leaders get away with predation of their women and children.
---- here you go again overeacting, i see no cult leader. Frequent posts at soe also debunkt this idea
- Some of those members stay because they want to be part of the community and some stay because they have fallen for the words of that authority figure. Do you not understand how someone can be persuaded to go against their natural instinct when placed into situations such as those presented? P.S. In this specific case, Brad had mobile phone number, personal email, Instant Messenger, and possibly other forms of contact. I guess her ignoring his calls, emails, etc didn't really send the right message, right
----all the forms of communication you mention involve consent to add someone as a friend (so you can delete someone on MSN) , give out your phone number or personal email (i admit here that admins can see personal email addresses) or other form of consent to contact you via those applications. Once again seeing only one half of the mails makes it impossible to identify what was communicated back and forth.
I do understand how the situation you sketched could come about in some situations but also the many "out clauses" open to people subjected to it, leasst of all their own verbal communication skills. All that i can offer here is the advice to always contact an admin in these matters.
I guess that's how you manage to sleep at night. Thinking that your members are capable of thinking for themselves which is quite the generalization and failure to understand group dynamics. You also fail to understand how it would difficult it would be for someone to choose to block messages from a person of authority within the community let alone the founder.
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