Earthlings, Chiaroscuros and Sfumatos, United to Save the Saviors
Response to Simone
I ran across a response to our good buddy, Pierre, by none other than Simone. Now, not many people remember Simone from back in the old days on SOE and even the early days of SOSOE, so perhaps a quick history lesson about her would be useful.
Simone joined SOE in the early days and was and always will be a true believer. She brings in her Catholic schooling as well so you have the hybrid Christian New Age thing going on which needs examining but that's for another post. During this time on SOE there were a lot of people Brad had labeled as skeptics and Simone tried to align herself with them. She even did SOE a favor and created a group for the skeptics to discuss things, you know cordon them off so they don't mess with the main posts. This group received a handful of responses but not too much as Simone presented examples of conjuring tricks and nothing that really went against anything that Brad and the rest of SOE were pushing.
Simone never stood up against Brad's womanizing or predatory practices. After a certain point, she decided to leave SOE but keep her account there so the content would not be erased. However, once SOSOE started and people were awakening to the truth about Brad, she decided to post on SOE again...things like Brad was a victim of the Solfeggio tones that were making his pineal gland go into overdrive blah blah blah which led to her being shunned on SOE. Eventually she joined SOSOE. While it was good to have her here, I think her theories and beliefs would not have stood up to proper examination. During that time we did not have time to properly discuss her theories and beliefs because we were more concerned about the suicide incidents and the Kerry affair. One note about the Kerry affair: Simone's stance was that they were consenting adults and we (SOSOE) had no right to say anything. Fuck the kids, the spouses, etc... Fuck the fact that Brad had essentially brainwashed Kerry. Looks like got vindicated by that in the end, didn't we? No apology for that Simone?
Simone decided to leave SOSOE after she was called a mother hen due to her response style and self righteous attitude. Upon leaving, she commented something like "I would hate to see the comments here if I ever got on your bad side". Well Simone, I think we've been pretty damn respectful concerning you and your theories but I think your sucker punch is just a bit too much.
P.S. - When Simone left, I created this blog: http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/profiles/blogs/request-if-y... By deleting her account she removed some decent discussions members here were having.
Simone joined SOE in the early days and was and always will be a true believer. She brings in her Catholic schooling as well so you have the hybrid Christian New Age thing going on which needs examining but that's for another post. During this time on SOE there were a lot of people Brad had labeled as skeptics and Simone tried to align herself with them. She even did SOE a favor and created a group for the skeptics to discuss things, you know cordon them off so they don't mess with the main posts. This group received a handful of responses but not too much as Simone presented examples of conjuring tricks and nothing that really went against anything that Brad and the rest of SOE were pushing.
Simone never stood up against Brad's womanizing or predatory practices. After a certain point, she decided to leave SOE but keep her account there so the content would not be erased. However, once SOSOE started and people were awakening to the truth about Brad, she decided to post on SOE again...things like Brad was a victim of the Solfeggio tones that were making his pineal gland go into overdrive blah blah blah which led to her being shunned on SOE. Eventually she joined SOSOE. While it was good to have her here, I think her theories and beliefs would not have stood up to proper examination. During that time we did not have time to properly discuss her theories and beliefs because we were more concerned about the suicide incidents and the Kerry affair. One note about the Kerry affair: Simone's stance was that they were consenting adults and we (SOSOE) had no right to say anything. Fuck the kids, the spouses, etc... Fuck the fact that Brad had essentially brainwashed Kerry. Looks like got vindicated by that in the end, didn't we? No apology for that Simone?
Simone decided to leave SOSOE after she was called a mother hen due to her response style and self righteous attitude. Upon leaving, she commented something like "I would hate to see the comments here if I ever got on your bad side". Well Simone, I think we've been pretty damn respectful concerning you and your theories but I think your sucker punch is just a bit too much.
P.S. - When Simone left, I created this blog: http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/profiles/blogs/request-if-y... By deleting her account she removed some decent discussions members here were having.
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Permalink Reply by LeavingSOE on -
Regarding the comment that some members were "bummed" that her content was lost, I was the one who asked if she had a backup. I actually spent a great deal of time composing something as a reply and was disappointed that I didn't have a copy of what I wrote. I told Simone this fact, but I guess she's rewriting history. I would post the emails, but I'm wildly embarrassed at how polite I was to her.
I also think Simone is a classic example of the passive aggressive attitude of a lot of these lightworkers. A simple search for her name on SOE can show you how she tends to sucker punch a person along with a "lol" to feign a softness in the blow. At least with our members, what you see is what you get. We don't pretend to be all "love and light".
Simone, what I see in you is a sad woman who craves importance and tries to gain it in dirty ways. You may think you're not a bully, Simone, but you sure as hell are. You're just the type that tries to hide your true nature beneath this facade of piety. Kudos to SOE for giving people like Simone a place to feel important.
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Permalink Reply by ilikepies on -
LOL "im sorry they did that to you...I think we've all lived through the experience of being persecuted for bursting into an online community and threatening all the members with slow agonizing deaths"
I remind everyone that we first responded to pierres rantishly written general claims about a worldwide conspiracy with simple inquiries as to what he specifically believed and why, he was simply spouting a vague concept about humanoids controlling us all and interbreeding and never really went much deeper than that. His response to our friendly desire to allow him to further elaborate his thoughts was of course to start spouting that we were blind evil fools run by reptillian insurance adjustors and that we would all burn in the fire of gargameth and so on and so on and he hasnt really stopped that since....
These people write us off as a bunch of narrow minded meanies but they dont seem to know much about the substance of what is said here, at least they are willing to make judgements on things like this without fully knowing the facts...unless Simone is some kind of crazy meth head as well
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Permalink Reply by DeusEx on -
Pies, this is her response to another SOSOE post on SOE:
She's lost it. They are going to convert the abominable snowman? We're the fucked up deformed evil toys? They are going to deliver the presents to the children? WTF?
ilikepies said:LOL "im sorry they did that to you...I think we've all lived through the experience of being persecuted for bursting into an online community and threatening all the members with slow agonizing deaths"
I remind everyone that we first responded to pierres rantishly written general claims about a worldwide conspiracy with simple inquiries as to what he specifically believed and why, he was simply spouting a vague concept about humanoids controlling us all and interbreeding and never really went much deeper than that. His response to our friendly desire to allow him to further elaborate his thoughts was of course to start spouting that we were blind evil fools run by reptillian insurance adjustors and that we would all burn in the fire of gargameth and so on and so on and he hasnt really stopped that since....
These people write us off as a bunch of narrow minded meanies but they dont seem to know much about the substance of what is said here, at least they are willing to make judgements on things like this without fully knowing the facts...unless Simone is some kind of crazy meth head as well
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Permalink Reply by Tab on -
Looks like any opportunity for mme simone to be holier than thou is finger licking good!
And to tell you the truth I'm sort of speechless as to how demented the rudolph thing is...
EDIT: You think she'd be all christmas and let's play with the children after reading some of Pierre's golden wisom on SOSOE?
DeusEx said:Pies, this is her response to another SOSOE post on SOE:
She's lost it. They are going to convert the abominable snowman? We're the fucked up deformed evil toys? They are going to deliver the presents to the children? WTF?
ilikepies said:LOL "im sorry they did that to you...I think we've all lived through the experience of being persecuted for bursting into an online community and threatening all the members with slow agonizing deaths"
I remind everyone that we first responded to pierres rantishly written general claims about a worldwide conspiracy with simple inquiries as to what he specifically believed and why, he was simply spouting a vague concept about humanoids controlling us all and interbreeding and never really went much deeper than that. His response to our friendly desire to allow him to further elaborate his thoughts was of course to start spouting that we were blind evil fools run by reptillian insurance adjustors and that we would all burn in the fire of gargameth and so on and so on and he hasnt really stopped that since.... These people write us off as a bunch of narrow minded meanies but they dont seem to know much about the substance of what is said here, at least they are willing to make judgements on things like this without fully knowing the facts...unless Simone is some kind of crazy meth head as well
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Permalink Reply by DeusEx on
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More advice from Simone concerning SOSOE:
Jealous? Simone, really. How fucking full of yourself and forgiving of Brad's transgressions can you get?
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Permalink Reply by Ben on -
Simone,
In “When Prophecy Fails”, dealing with cognitive dissonance, Leon Festinger writes about Mrs. Keech and her followers. Through automatic writing, Mrs. Keech received a message that the world would come to an end on December 21, 1954. Keech and her followers were informed that a UFO would fly them to safety at the stroke of midnight, December 20. When the extraterrestrial deus ex machina failed to show up, Keech and her followers experienced a brief moment of panic and clung to the possibility that their clocks were faulty. After several hours of waiting in vain, some followers “snapped out of it” and went home to pick up the pieces of their lives; others stayed and collectively came up with strained excuses to convince themselves that the night had been a success: their final conclusion was that the love of Ms Keech and her group had actually saved earth from destruction!
How interesting it was to see the 10-14-08 movement go through the very same motions. Many called it quits when Blossom’s UFO didn’t show up, others clung to the notion it was still the 14th in certain parts of the world, then came up with the “wrong calendar” excuse, and when that didn’t work either a change in doctrine was made (cue saviorsofearth) to call the day a success after all. Before long, Brad proudly proclaimed that the love of his group had actually prevented an earthquake from happening.
The fact that 10-14-08 took place in the digital age spices things up a bit. The internet allowed believers who walked away when nothing happened on 10-14 to keep retuning to the safe haven when everyday life once again become unbearable, too scary, too tough, or too dull. On a psychological level, returning is not easy - cognitive dissonance comes into play again here and the member subconsciously tries to justify it to himself by upgrading his gullibility and accepting (and maybe even defending) the content that had made him leave in the first place.
Look at Tony, he started as an amiable, “pull up a chair” kind of guy, openly contemplated leaving SOE, but finally became Brad’s fascistic attack dog who often stays up all night to have the final word in discussions on SoSoe. Look at Trudy who, when I was a SOE member earlier this year, expressed her dislike of Brad on SOE’s Dutch group pages and considered leaving, but now addresses Brad as “Dear, Dear friend.”
A similar thing happened with you, Simone. In spite of your tendency to have a “mother knows best” demeanor, we were pleased to have you here as you were reasonable and calm in discussions. You left both SOE and SoSoe at one point, but returned to SOE a while ago and even offered a sympathetic ear to Pierre, the guy who once called for violent revolution, recently made death threats to SoSoe members, and turned out to be a fine example of what a real cyber stalker is.
In regards to Brad’s personal life not being our business: you’re absolutely right but you overlooked something that has been pointed out before: Brad made his affairs public by bragging on SOE chat about having shagged Kerry in astral. It’s one of the many times Brad acted impulsively and openly said things he probably regretted afterwards but couldn’t take back. It has been Brad’s modus operandi from the beginning to delete everything that could tarnish his (self-)image and he doesn’t like it one bit when screen caps of the things he doesn’t want SOE-ers to see or remember show up here. He has said a number of times that he is so evolved that nothing we say or do can bother him, but it has become obvious that it bothers him quite a bit. His recent responses are textbook examples of a cornered person who makes a desperate attempt of “making it all go away”: Brad’s umpteenth ultimatum was both sad and laughable and his lashing out at his former best friend Sean irrelevant as it doesn’t change the fact that when he proudly declared on SOE he was sleeping outdoors, away from the burdens of society, he was actually crashing at Sean’s place.
That is what SoSoe is all about - offering the information Brad tries to delete, distort, or sweep under the rug. So, yes, when Brad lies on SOE about sleeping in nature, we come forward with the information that Brad was actually spending the night at a friend’s place.
When Brad says on facebook that he has mastered abundance and used it to avoid getting evicted, we come forward and show that Brad has been selling his personal belongings. That is not abundance but barely making ends meet and there’s nothing magical about that.
When Brad openly calls yet another (married) woman his soul mate or twin flame or whatever, we keep track and add it to the list of short lived online flings. Sure, there is a nothing illegal about seducing married women (at least not in this part of the world) but what does such juvenile behavior tell you about Brad’s ethics, integrity, and morality?
When Brad starts yet another website aimed at making money with his “powers”, we are there to make screen caps and add it to the list of failures before Brad deletes the sites in question (as he has done with medication cures.com and expressionofsoul.com where getting rid of cancer and autism was only a click on the paypal button away).
When Tony comes here to say that one cannot be a member of both SOE and Sosoe because that is like a vegetarian joining a site that promotes the consumption of meat, and then lies on SOE saying “as of yet we have no problems with people being a member of both sites”, we come forward with that information.
When Brad proudly announces that his youtube videos were “the most viewed in the Canadian education-category”, we come forward with the information that Brad made this happen by creating multiple youtube accounts to favorite and give five star ratings to his own stuff.
Yes, SoSoe is crass and offensive at times but even if SoSoe was clinical and businesslike, it’d still be referred to as a hate site. Remember Pufnstuf? He was a popular SOE member and a close internet friend of Brad. Then Puf made the “mistake” of expressing concern for some other SOE-members who might have taken Brad’s message of “Ascend now!” a bit too literally. Puf’s sincere concern was met with an open attack from Brad and horrible insults from friends who rounded up on him:
http://saviorsofsaviorsofearth.ning.com/forum/topics/messages-sent-...
It reminded me of Godfather 2: endless exclamations of unconditional love and tender words about the importance of family are made, but make one mistake and you get the kiss of death.
On a side note, Puf hasn’t logged in for ages and we can only hope that he is doing fine. SOE-admins are quick to say that its members are capable of using discernment (because every time it comes down to it, they prefer to dodge responsibility), so if the vulnerable Pufnstuf is NOT doing fine, I’m sure it has absolutely nothing to with him receiving hateful messages of people he thought were his friends…
What happened with Puf shows that it wouldn’t make any difference if SoSoe was devoid of ridicule and satire. Besides, I’m partial to satire; SoSoe didn’t invented it - it has been around for ages, just like quacks have been around for ages. Just like UFO cults that all go through the exact same motions (sometimes with devastating results for their less stable members) have been around for just about forever. And, speaking for myself, I don’t think Brad deserves any respect. There is enough evidence on this site to expose him for the sad little abusive, lying man-child that he is. He is so very transparent that every person with half a brain should be able to see right through him (unless they have personal reasons--the outside world scares me!--to keep defending and standing by him). As long as Brad keeps making a fool out of himself, as long as he continues to be a wolf in sheep’s clothing, we will ridicule him and offer members and visitors of this site the kind of information he doesn’t want you to see.
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Permalink Reply by Linda on -
OH... IC... you just HAD to do that, didnt you? ... a wild guess: this morning you woke up and decided to let Linda blow her rooftop by mentioning the AUTISM and CANCER scam, just for fun, just cuz you can ;-)... your SUCH a cutiepie!! lol ... luv ya!
When Brad starts yet another website aimed at making money with his “powers”, we are there to make screen caps and add it to the list of failures before Brad deletes the sites in question (as he has done with medication cures.com and expressionofsoul.com where getting rid of cancer and autism was only a click on the paypal button away).
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