EoS - Testimonial #1

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Permalink Reply by DeusEx on March 4, 2009 at 11:15pm

Indigo, thank you so much for coming here to present your side of things. It was obvious that I would post your testimony once it was available. I will still post it so we can discuss it. There have been many good points made here already by the other members of this site. I'd like to give you the chance to answer them, but I would also like to ask you to read up on Conflict of interest and the definition of a Shill. Marketing Ethics should be studied by all those that take the steps into creating their own business or taking part in it. I would really appreciate you getting back to me once you've had a chance to read the three links above. I understand your willingness to want to provide a testimony, given what you've told us, but it would be placing you in some interesting ethical dilemmas.

Indigo Bliss said:

Hey everybody. I felt the need to share this with you, despite some of the current feelings of EoS. A short time ago, I responded to DeusEx's post on certain members "being in business" with Brad, as I was placed in that list. Following my post, DeusEx immediatley responded both on the post, and a private message sent to me on SoE with the utmost respect. I followed up with DeusEx accepting his words and thanking him for giving me a chance to speak out on who I am, and thank you all as well for that grace. I ask now of you to do the same, as I am just as much as a person as anyone of you, and would not treat or want to be treated any other way. I accept, and especially encourage your thoughts and questions on any matter, the sky the limit. In that respect, I will get to what I want to share, only in regards to of myself, and will not comment on the subject of this post, as I practice strict neutrality in life. In a few days or so, I will be submitting my own Testimonial regarding my connections with Clinton and Brad. In it, I will discuss my experiences I have encountered since I have joined SoE back in early January of this year. Let me make clear, that only recently was I asked if I would be willing to write up such a Testimonial, and it would be truly up to me. At no point to this date or any following have I received or been offered any payments or compensations in any way whatsoever, whether it be from Brad, Clinton, for SoE, for EoS, or anything else. I have chosen to do this by my own decision out of the goodness of my heart. Now, I'm sure some are wondering at this moment what will I be sharing, and why me. This is a fair question, and I have no problem at all sharing that with all of you now. Even way before the idea was shared with me of EoS creation, Clinton, Brad, and a few other members who have no relation to EoS like me and have never held an admin position, have initiated various healings, channeled conversations, and any others of the sort as a no strings attached gift to me either asked for or offered. In result, all that I have experienced from them have been truly life changing for me, just as much however as becoming connected with all of you, SoE, etc. I personally have experienced, and witnessing others have as well, some of the services offered on EoS and some not. In all honesty, for me most importantly, I have benefited so much from those connections in which I will share in the Testimonial. Please understand, I hold no argument or contest to any of you, this post, or anything else for that matter. I just felt, that since we are all family in the end, that I shall never hold shame or non disclosure of my own feelings or sharings. On that note, all that matters is what I have received in my truth, no matter what, why, or how. Just, that it IS. Please don't ask me of my personal opinions in relating matters as it could create debates, which I don't participate in because of my place of neutral grounds in life. However, you may share whatever you wish to, and I will be more than happy to respond the best I can to sustain my place, and hope that I am given equal love that I offer to all of you. These past couple months have been so great for me, as family and friends have just recently began to accept me for who I am, and better yet, have opened their minds to any and all possibilities. If only I could say the same about the whole planet, but it's getting there haha. As always, much love and respect equally for all of you, and appreciate the opportunity to connect, and all the sharing in between. All the best...IB

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Permalink Reply by ilikepies on March 4, 2009 at 11:44pm

they should really wait until they have actual customers before posting testimonials..though of course with someone like Brad you can't really trust anything like this cause any random good review could just potentially be him, usually I'd just give people the benefit of the doubt but..not Brad.

Somehow I doubt they've made even a cent off this website yet, these "testimonials" are just ways to try and draw the actual customers in, like some douche opening a restaraunt and getting all his waiters to write really good reviews and tell people the food is really good before the restaraunt has even opened to the public.

Unfortunately for team Brad stupid people who want to pay money for stupid fake nothingness will still probably stick to the stupidness they see on Oprah and the like so until Brad or one of these people do something worthwhile to get the worlds attention (highly unlikely) they will continue struggling and making themselves look like douches trying to get this site off the ground until Clinton decides he wants to go off and join the circus and Brad finds some new venture for fame and fortune and abandons EOS like hes essentially abandoned SOE and abandoned grayshot and planet x fiction and every other godamn thing he's ever done.

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Permalink Reply by LeavingSOE on March 5, 2009 at 12:17pm

Wow, thanks so much for posting this Deus. Pardon my ignorance, but I didn't even know the term "shill" before you used it. It's a perfect description of what's going on here. Thanks again for the links.

DeusEx said:

Indigo, thank you so much for coming here to present your side of things. It was obvious that I would post your testimony once it was available. I will still post it so we can discuss it. There have been many good points made here already by the other members of this site. I'd like to give you the chance to answer them, but I would also like to ask you to read up on Conflict of interest and the definition of a Shill. Marketing Ethics should be studied by all those that take the steps into creating their own business or taking part in it. I would really appreciate you getting back to me once you've had a chance to read the three links above. I understand your willingness to want to provide a testimony, given what you've told us, but it would be placing you in some interesting ethical dilemmas.

Indigo Bliss said:

Hey everybody. I felt the need to share this with you, despite some of the current feelings of EoS. A short time ago, I responded to DeusEx's post on certain members "being in business" with Brad, as I was placed in that list. Following my post, DeusEx immediatley responded both on the post, and a private message sent to me on SoE with the utmost respect. I followed up with DeusEx accepting his words and thanking him for giving me a chance to speak out on who I am, and thank you all as well for that grace. I ask now of you to do the same, as I am just as much as a person as anyone of you, and would not treat or want to be treated any other way. I accept, and especially encourage your thoughts and questions on any matter, the sky the limit. In that respect, I will get to what I want to share, only in regards to of myself, and will not comment on the subject of this post, as I practice strict neutrality in life. In a few days or so, I will be submitting my own Testimonial regarding my connections with Clinton and Brad. In it, I will discuss my experiences I have encountered since I have joined SoE back in early January of this year. Let me make clear, that only recently was I asked if I would be willing to write up such a Testimonial, and it would be truly up to me. At no point to this date or any following have I received or been offered any payments or compensations in any way whatsoever, whether it be from Brad, Clinton, for SoE, for EoS, or anything else. I have chosen to do this by my own decision out of the goodness of my heart. Now, I'm sure some are wondering at this moment what will I be sharing, and why me. This is a fair question, and I have no problem at all sharing that with all of you now. Even way before the idea was shared with me of EoS creation, Clinton, Brad, and a few other members who have no relation to EoS like me and have never held an admin position, have initiated various healings, channeled conversations, and any others of the sort as a no strings attached gift to me either asked for or offered. In result, all that I have experienced from them have been truly life changing for me, just as much however as becoming connected with all of you, SoE, etc. I personally have experienced, and witnessing others have as well, some of the services offered on EoS and some not. In all honesty, for me most importantly, I have benefited so much from those connections in which I will share in the Testimonial. Please understand, I hold no argument or contest to any of you, this post, or anything else for that matter. I just felt, that since we are all family in the end, that I shall never hold shame or non disclosure of my own feelings or sharings. On that note, all that matters is what I have received in my truth, no matter what, why, or how. Just, that it IS. Please don't ask me of my personal opinions in relating matters as it could create debates, which I don't participate in because of my place of neutral grounds in life. However, you may share whatever you wish to, and I will be more than happy to respond the best I can to sustain my place, and hope that I am given equal love that I offer to all of you. These past couple months have been so great for me, as family and friends have just recently began to accept me for who I am, and better yet, have opened their minds to any and all possibilities. If only I could say the same about the whole planet, but it's getting there haha. As always, much love and respect equally for all of you, and appreciate the opportunity to connect, and all the sharing in between. All the best...IB

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Permalink Reply by Ben on March 5, 2009 at 2:08pm

Indigo Bliss, sorry for calling you Indigo Child by mistake in my previous comment.

I am currently in Europe for a combined business/pleasure trip and visited the old country -Belgium- today. I hooked up with a couple of friends, one of them a formally trained kinesiologist with two decades of hands on experience. I mentioned expressionofsoul and gave her the link. I’m back in Holland now (where I will stay for the rest of the week), and just got off the phone with my outraged friend. She had visited the site and was utterly appalled by the very idea of two young men with minimal experience and no formal training embarking upon a 'healing online' business venture. She deemed it both unethical and dangerous and even used a word Brad is so fond of: sickening. She realized that the site isn’t even approved by NASH (the North American Society of Homeopaths) which offers membership and their seal of approval to those who practice alternative medicine, have a clean record, at least five years of formal training in their field of expertise, and abide by the strict NASH code of ethics. One of these codes is: Do not claim that you can treat any disease, condition or ailment or imply that you can do so.
Expressionofsoul, however, as can be seen in the answer to James_UK’s mail, boldly states that it can treat Autism. Previously, claims of being able to cure cancer and Parkinson's have been made. I am sure that Brad also thinks he can cure Aids, but does not (yet) dare to say it out loud.
I tried to calm my friend down by telling her that Brad does not exactly have a Midas touch and that (this might sound harsh) the only people gullible enough to fall for his claims can't afford his services anyway. But my friend was personally offended by Expressionofsoul and said she is preparing a letter to NASH, using the information, screencaps and links offered by SoSoe, and file an official complaint; she will ask her colleagues and the ECCH (the European equivalent of NASH) to include their signatures. Her anger made me angry again.

In another thread on SoSoe, Clinton said "Try debunk kienesiology as well; Try debunk the pendulum; Try debunk aura imagary" etc etc. Clinton fails to understand that we are not necessarily hardcore atheist skeptics; we are simply seasoned enough to separate chaff from wheat. It's not 'my personal truth' but a simple, verifiable fact that Brad has a history of trying to make money online and using the same techniques over and over again. These techniques include, but are not limited to, creating fake accounts to praise and condone his websites and calling himself an expert in a number of fields such as web designer, ad sense specialist, game designer, and referring to himself in the third person (to suggest that his 'blurbs' and 'press releases' were written by someone else). All these online businesses have failed because Brad is more interested in calling himself an expert than doing the mandatory formal training, research, and studying (and with ‘studying’ I don’t mean watching youtube videos or consulting wikipedia or skimming through Marketing For Dummies) to actually become one.
When more experienced and successful videogame designers tried to help Brad by telling him that it was next to impossible to get a game up and running within six months and that he should be careful with his use of an existing franchise (Cloverfield), he didn't react with gratitude but with stubbornness and hostility. Again, this is not my personal truth, but a series of facts that can be looked up; some of the articles here on SoSoe provide links.
Brad has chosen a certain modus operandi and has stubbornly stuck to it throughout the years; you'd think that after failing times and again, he'd so some soul searching and change his ways, but instead he is now more bold than ever and claims to be an expert in the field of spiritual healing, able to treat and cure a number of diseases and disorders such as cancer, Parkinson's, and autism. The testimonial page, which should be reserved for satisfied, unbiased, paying customers, instead features the thumbs up from (girl)friends.
To quote Michael Levy: You can bend it and twist it...you can misuse and abuse it...but even God cannot change the truth. And the truth here is that, with expressionofsoul, Brad is more unethical than ever. Not only does he now charge money (which he said he'd never do, but we all knew better) but he’s also playing with the mental and physical health of people and both he and Clinton react to criticism with ridicule, insults, and even legal threats. The truth, indigo, is that if you verbally condone or in any way contribute to expressionofsoul, you are not unbiased or neutral, but directly involved with a business that is not only at least unethical and unprofessional, but also potentially dangerous. It’s also a disgrace to bona fide homeopaths who had to overcome many obstacles to be taken seriously and who take great pride in setting and upholding high quality standards.

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Permalink Reply by ilikepies on March 9, 2009 at 11:13pm

http://expressionofsoul.com/testimonials.html

so far just the one testimonial from Brads "soul mate" who never actually used the "services" of expression of bullshit only now there's a different picture I'm assuming because they considered this new one more attractive or something...like its her fucking myspace page

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Permalink Reply by DeusEx on March 9, 2009 at 11:48pm

They may want to reconsider using that picture or adjust the contrast as she almost looks nude :P

ilikepies said:

http://expressionofsoul.com/testimonials.html

so far just the one testimonial from Brads "soul mate" who never actually used the "services" of expression of bullshit only now there's a different picture I'm assuming because they considered this new one more attractive or something...like its her fucking myspace page

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