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Comment by DeusEx on April 30, 2009 at 4:18pm

Comment by ilikepies on April 30, 2009 at 4:23pm

whats wrong Tony? come out come out wherever you are? are you scared? Could it be that even though I insult yours and everyone else at that site's intelligence none of you can defend yourselves because you know you'll lose? You know theirs no defense or excuse for all the bullshit you pull over there, that its all just a fun little hypocritical circle jerk for desperate sad people to withdraw from their lives and make believe they're extra special?

You know you can't defend the things that Brad has done, going around telling 5 differnet girls they were all his love in their past lives, giving them all private channeling sessions where the beings he "channels" tell the girls they need to follow Brad as a mentor finally succeeding in pulling one away from her entire family to come live with him in victoria while he leaves his family? You know you can't make an excuse for that, you know its partly your responsibility as you took on the task of administrator, you are a snivelling sad little coward who couldn't care less if girls are being taken advantage of by your egomaniacal leader because it just feels so warm and fuzzy when brad and clinton tell you your a magical alien soul you will be reunited with your magical alien family soon.

Shame on you, run away tony, run run away

Comment by LeavingSOE on April 30, 2009 at 4:55pm

Tony, I give you credit for this exchange. But was this an act? Where did this guy go? I have to say, I miss having these exchanges with you, as it was you at your most rational.

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Tony has sent you a message on Saviors of Earth

well lest wait and see what happens. I have given up, this must be about the 5th time i have attempted to get Brad to sort the admins out (and himself) and stick to what we agreed upon.
I think the chaos will get worse once i step down or leave. The way to source is against the flow haha
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:28:09 +0000
> From: SOSoe
> To: Tony
>
> LOL!
> > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:23:03 +0000
> > From: Tony
> > To: SOSoe
> >

> > posted it now, quick copy it before it gets deleted LOL

> > > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:19:14 +0000
> > > From: SOSoe
> > > To: Tony
> > >

> > > Yeah, I saw the exchange. You are a truly patient and rational man.

> > > > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:11:39 +0000
> > > > From: Tony
> > > > To: SOSoe
> > > >

> > > > have to else chaos will raine. See the exchange i had with Jhon. He just doesnt get it.
> > > > On the one hand he states he wont hurt or disrespect anyone. I then post his quotes on HR and he then blateently states that free will and doesnt count. Hahaha. My post is nearly ready. I edited it and removed the name of Brad as i am not 100% sure if it was Brad or Bsb because once again they didnt inform me or the members in the appropiate discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Give me 5 mins and my post is up with an ultimation then i step down.

> > > > > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:05:26 +0000
> > > > > From: SOSoe
> > > > > To: Tony
> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, Tony. I really appreciate your consistency when it comes to the rules.

> > > > > > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:00:11 +0000
> > > > > > From: Tony
> > > > > > To: SOSoe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > check the discussion out i am copying/pasting as we speak.
> > > > > > I might be next on the ban list.
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:25:50 +0000
> > > > > > > From: SOSoe
> > > > > > > To: Tony
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please don't shoot the messenger, but I think ilikepies has a valid point:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "I'd also like to ask anyone whose still on SOE to ask
to ask Tony if he wants to keep things honest to make an addition to the rules with something like
> > > > > > > 'Brad has the right to ban anyone for any reason he sees fit and delete any comments he wants without going through the proper procedures of giving warnings or reasons for why he bans someone'

> > > > > > > I was given no Warnings, no reason, and there was no announcement or posting stating that I was banned and why. I mean I'm sure he can come up with a reason like "posting a link to a post that contained very personal and damaging information, plus I don't know how to argue against him and he makes me look bad" or something, just seems another sort of diss to a good man like Tony who tries so hard to keep everything by the rules."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Much Respect,
> > > > > > > SOSoe

Comment by Indigo Bliss on April 30, 2009 at 4:59pm

what's up ilikepies? it's been a while I know. so many things have been going on with my life recently, like family stuff, new job, etc. Anyways though, I thought I'd share after reading your comments above. First, can I say that I DO understand as to the fact you are, all in all, upset. The "why" I can't comment on frankly because I was not a part of nor familiar with your situation, but I do remember you telling me about it. I do find it a little rough, with all respect however, to generalize all SOE members a certain way. Can I speak for them? No, only I for I, as an equal member. I mean, I felt a little diminished by it, I'm not offended, but I feel as I'm a member solely for the purpose of connecting with others of similar interests, which I know none really around where I live lol. But yeah, so, I'm not there AS an "SOE-er", but as an individual apart of the SOE greater community. From my understanding, in terms of others and the intention of SOE, is available for that very purpose.

Obviously, you say you were treated unfairly as well as others, and that may be. But for me to comment on that I would need to have had experience or a part of them, not saying I'm unaware of them either. But really, at least for me and in my life, I don't try and focus on things that can, will, or have brought me down in the past. I don't avoid and shield myself from it if it occurs, but I've found how so much better I have felt by focusing on the things you want more of, because how it makes you feel. So, as you can see, none of this has to do with me defending/accusing anything or anyone, but I wanted to tell you that if this keeps you upset, why linger in it you know? But that's with anything in life, and hugely personal experience of my own. I mean, its a blunder that mass amount of emotions I carry on my shoulders to this day, but I realized that I could choose sometimes to not give any value to the stuff I didn't want. Remember, this has nothing to do with here or soe, this is just me sharing with you.

Anyways, I'll quit babbling now lol. Just thought you should know, that I care about you, and do value your opinion just as much as the next. Considering you are just as much as anyone else...equal. As always...all the best to you all. Until then- IB

Comment by LeavingSOE on April 30, 2009 at 5:09pm

Hi Indigo Bliss,

I think the fundamental problem that keeps people hanging on is that nothing has changed. All the issues of concern for the members of SOE remain, and anyone who tried to show compassion, care, and concern was locked out permanently. Notice the fact that there are hundreds of communities with people who share the same interests as you without the abuses that were done to people on SOE. Every social network will have its issues, but what happened on SOE continues to happen and nobody is there to speak out against it anymore. There is a constant preying on the vulnerable, and that is something that makes most of us both sad and angry.

Thanks for taking the time to post, and I really appreciate your kind voice.

Comment by ilikepies on April 30, 2009 at 5:15pm

hmmm am im upset, am i angry? often I get asked that "why are you so upset, why so angry"

I dont know if upset is the right word to use, i dunno, flabbergasted maybe. Flabbergasted and in utter disbelief that there are people this stupid. So instead of trying the "hey guys can i share my opinion with all respect" which lead to me being banned and deleted anyway I choose to call it like I see it. These people are idiots and the best thing for them is to be called idiots directly to their face, at least thats what I feel my job is. It's so easy to become a fucking moron when your bombarded with shit about how holy and magical and evolved and special you are.
This dosent bring my down, this is kind of fun and rewarding, I'm just like that, I enjoy truth and honesty and sincerity. I truly believe many people on that site are having great disservices done to them and i will tell them how retarded they are acting as many times as I want as long as Brad keeps releasing bullshit like his channeling videos and there's not even one person saying
"hey you know what brad...this is so obviously a fake, and I'm not sure lying people like this is really the best thing to do"

So don't worry about me and thank you, for responding to me in some way, for this is the true reason for my foul mouthed mean spirited insanity. I hope if I insult these people enough they will try to actually defend the ideas they hold so dear, those beliefs they are holding onto so desperately. The truth is that none of them can really defend it much at all beyond the ol "this is my truth, it feels good and I like the sound of it cause its true"

Ummmmm no

These people are very likely headed for a serious fucking brick wall if they continue down this idiotic path of imaginary bullshit and the guy behind the driving wheel couldnt care less about people's personal development and only cares about his own success and glory.
This is a dangerous combination in my opinion because hes stupid enough to believe that even as he bans and erases all but those that affirm his greatness is the way to get fame and recognition....well its not, and hes never going to succeed, and god only knows what this insane idiot might do when he realizes that for good..

SOE is no longer a place for people to connect with similar interests, perhaps you just happen to have the interests that are deemed acceptable, but I have these interests too and I was well into all of this stuff at least 5 years before brad ever even heard about it and I can tell you that site is not for people with similar interests, its a site for Brad to show off and look amazing and while he allows other people to post other ideas if any conflict too much with his or try to argue against his quest for fame and glory then they will be shut up and banished. simple as that

Retards

Comment by LeavingSOE on April 30, 2009 at 6:31pm

You know, there is something I find a bit funny (not "haha-funny"). Moon, I'm pretty sure you weren't even talking about SOE when you were talking about having thoughts controlled. I'm pretty sure it was on a different Ning that you were labeled as belonging to a "hate site." So what's up with Tony coming to SOE's rescue?!?

Guilty conscience?!?

Comment by DeusEx on April 30, 2009 at 6:31pm

It's called piety ROFL

Comment by Tab on May 1, 2009 at 12:30pm

PS-@TONY I don't know you much, but I see you as between a rock and a hard place. One one hand you have to fulfill the expectations and manage the behavior of the community which you devote yourself to and on the other you have to deal with and manage the expectations of the creator and admins. I see in you a lot of common sense, except for all that chemtrail stuff (if the illuminati wanted to control and kill us or whatever with the resources they have they would just break down our doors and shoot us or put us in slave camps not trickle dust on us from airplanes in the sky, but I digress)

You might not like the content of our site or the welcome you get here, but I think the fact that you show up casually like this to comment on our threads means that a part of you can appreciate our values and understand what we are doing and why. I think from the things I've read from you I can see what your vision of SOE is. And although your position wouldn't allow you to say this publicly I believe that you can appreciate why we are against Brad and deep down know that this guy is a big problem and at the very least doesn't come to the process of self-improvement and new-age ideas with the same intent as you or the SOE community. Every other week it's some new claim of great powers or access to alien information or a money-making scheme. These things even you cannot ignore, yet you remain associated to SOE and Brad.

Being intellectually honest is not incompatible with new-age views. You just need character and common-sense, traits I believe you possess. Again, you might not like the way we welcome you but that's the character of our group and like it or not I wouldn't trade pies "donkey abortion face" references for anything.

Oh and one thing you will NEVER be banned from here for expressing your views, no matter how harshly you want to phrase them.

Comment by ilikepies on May 1, 2009 at 12:59pm

Its kind of unfair isn't it that anyone on SOE can come here and state their opinion and they will be given the courtesy of not having their thoughts deleted or banned but of course also have to leave theirselves open to our arguments or questions. So of course they come here and say what they want and then run away back to SOE which doesn't give people the same kind of right to go there and say their opinions. I was perfectly willing to go there and put out my opinion and have many people speaking out against me, I was perfectly willing and able to defend myself, and because these people's beliefs are based on nothing but flimsy hopes and imagination its not so easy for them to defend themselves so they'd rather just ban and delete everything.

In my opinion Tony is simply someone who at the beginnign was good at putting on the show of unconditional love and acceptance. Deep down he still wanted, much like the rest of SOE, to have the aliens come down and ascension to happen and to have all us skeptics proven wrong. But as things went on and Brad kept making a fool out of himself and suddenly instead of just our opinions of how douchey brad and everyone were we started having all these rock hard pieces of evidence of the disgusting things people were up to and suddenly the site was no longer willing to tolerate all these dissenting views which kept being proven to be in the right over and over again.

They're just a bunch of kids playing a make believe fantasy game thats much too real to most of them and rather than even bother trying to defend it knowing deep down they have no real proof other than their own selfish sad desires they'd rather just block out the real rational world that's trying to let them know they're wasting their lives on make believe fantasy.

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